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I believe also that these men (DW, CN)as far as I can see from their past accomplishments (whether Carl wants the Kudos or not) have led a life of integrity and as such I see no reason to disparage their character or call them liars or perhaps worse incompetent. In fact since both of these men have signed a statement that says they built and tested prototypes, saying you don't believe it exists is equivalent to calling them liars. You have no proof they lied you are just calling them liars because you can not figure out what they have done, open your mind to the possibility that there are forces and universal truths about nature that we as yet do not fully understand. I choose to live in a world where a man is assumed to be forthright and honest until it is PROVEN, not assumed, or stated by someone with no insight into the issue, that he is not so. I have been on theeestory since early '08. I am invested in ZENN.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." T. R.