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Carl W. Nelson

"I think these people are scientists." -Eric Cross PSU

Check this out in particular:

FERROELECTRICITY AND THE CHEMICAL BOND IN PEROVSKITE-TYPE OXIDES

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Can someone remind me, when was Carl Nelson at MIT?

Note the acknowledgement to Von Hippel at MIT in this document.

Acknowledgment
The author wishes to express his appreciation to Professor A. von Hippel
for constant encouragement and to Professor W. N. Lipscomb of Harvard University
for having provided notes on group theory in its applications to chemical problems.
Thanks are due to Professor R. E. Newnham for valuable discussions.
Many of the ideas in this report were independently originated by Professor Lipscomb.

I believe Nelson was mentored by Von Hippell. Anyone have additional info on this???

Carl Nelson - Co-founder and Chief Technology Officer, has over 30 years development experience in magnetic recording technology (Seagate Magnetics; Data disk) and silicon integrated-circuits (Signetics; Synertek; Friden). Previously, he served on the technical staff, Laboratory of Insulation Research, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Carl Nelson is the co-inventor of sputter-deposited carbon protective overcoating for thin-film magnetic media and inventor of titanium nitride diffusion barrier in multilayer metallization arrays for integrated circuits. He received his Bachelor of Science Degree from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Chem., EE), with advanced studies in solid-state physics, metallurgy, structural chemistry, crystallography and ceramics.

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Interesting document from Dr. L Eric Cross.

MEMORIES OF ARTHUR VON HIPPEL
R. E. NEWNHAM
251 Materials Research Laboratory, Pennsylvania State University.
University Park, PA 16802
In 1958, 1 moved from Cambridge, England. to Cambridge, Massachusetts where
I joined the staff of the Laboratory for Insulation Research at M.I.T. Professor
von l-lippel (the "Prof") directed the lab for more than 20 years. In many ways,
the Laboratory for Insulation Research served as a model for contemporary ma-
terials research laboratories with a team of chemists, crystal growers, crystallog-
raphers, physicists, ceramists. and electrical engineers all working on dielectric
materials of all types. At the time, I was there the staff included Alexander Smakula,
Janis Kalnajs. Bill Westphal, David Epstein, Perry Miles, George Economos,
Arthur Linz. Gene Farrell, Carl Nelson. and Ron Fuchs. Aina Sils was the labo-
ratory secretary, Stan Kingsbury the business manager, and the beautiful illustra-
tions in the lab reports and hooks were drawn by draftsman John Marra. The main
part of the laboratory was housed on the second floor of Building 4 overlooking
the courtyarcd and the Charles River.
For several years, I assisted Professor von Rippe] in teaching his graduate course
on "Molecular Engineering." The lectures loosely followed the topics in his book
"Dielectrics and Waves" beginning with equivalent circuit representations of ma-
terials, followed by atomistic and electronic models of permittivity, conductivity,
and electric breakdown. Perhaps the most interesting part of the course was the
Wednesday afternoon "Round Table Discussion." After coffee and doughnuts, the
students gothered around a big table and Professor von Hippel would introduce
the topic-of-the-day and a specialist in the field. Topics ranged from high voltage
breakdown to molecular biology, reflecting the broad, humanistic interests of Pro-
fessor von Hiippel. Several chapters in his book "Molecular Engineering" grew out
of these discussions.
I left the Laboratory for Insulation Research in 1966 when Professor von Hippel
retired, but he had a lasting influence over my thoughts and career. My interest
in structure-property relationships and in ferroelectricity began with the round table
discussions and the research work at M.I.T. The Prof was also a great inspiration
in how to deal with people from many countries working in many different disci-
plines. He knew how to put it all together.

Reference to Carl Nelson at BMDO.

Finally, thanks are due to Carl Nelson of BMDO, whose continuing support of research on the Sibling Cycle has given a major boost to development of this new technology.

2.0 THE BASICS OF THE SIBLING CYCLE AND TEST RIG
The two-stage refrigerator used in this project combined two first-of-its-kind elements. The
first stage hardware used in this contract was the first ported-piston Sibling Cycle
compressor/expander ever built. The second stage hardware was the first second stage ever
fitted to a Sibling Cycle first stage.
The first stage was built as a high-temperature, low-lift refrigerator, not as a cryocooler.
The first stage unit was completed shortly before this contract was awarded, and testing of
the original single-stage configuration was suspended so that the unit could be used in the
performance of this contract.
The second stage was designed, built and fitted to the first stage as part of the performance
of this contract. The intent was to use the pressure wave generated in the first stage to
create a refrigeration effect in the expansion space of the second stage.
The first stage generates a pressure/volume relationship that is unique to the Sibling Cycle.
The Sibling Cycle resembles both the Stirling cycle and the Ericsson cycle. It is, however,
subtly different. While piston motion is continuous (essentially sinusoidal), fluid motion is
discontinuous. Two separate masses of fluid undergo compression, expansion and transfer
sequentially, using the same expansion and compression spaces. The cycle and the machine
are covered by U.S. and foreign patents; the United States has certain rights in the second
patent, which covers improvements conceived during a previous SBIR contract (Refs. 1-3)
The principle and peculiarities of the machine and of its cycle have been described in
published papers. (Refs. 4-9).

I believe Carl and Dick met at BMDO...

Paper on Lasers

Another Paper...interesting one...with Nelson on distro

Look at who was on the distro for this document:

[quote]STRATEGIC DEFENSE INITIATIVE ORGANIZATION OFFICE OF NAVAL RESEARCH
ATTN: DIRECTOR SENSORS ATTN: DR MATTHEW WHITE
ATTN: LT COL H SWENSON
ATTN: MR CARL NELSON
ATTN: TNS LTCOL B GUILMAIN [quote]

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Of course, none of all that proves that he has a proper understanding of critical issues such as dielectric saturation.

LMAO

Nice one B.

link

Another report, Energy Storage Technologies, highlights 23 BMDO-
funded organizations focusing mainly on batteries and capacitors. Some of this research is
being transferred to electric vehicle applications.

link look for solid state battery

This really has been a life times work for Carl Nelson. His 1963 paper was produced not far off 50 years ago now.

If Carl does not understand Dialectric Saturation I don't know anyone that does!

Y-Po does ...
;p

eestorblog wrote:

link

Another report, Energy Storage Technologies, highlights 23 BMDO-
funded organizations focusing mainly on batteries and capacitors. Some of this research is
being transferred to electric vehicle applications.

link look for solid state battery

Another nice find b,

Carl W. Nelson has a deep understanding of BaTi03. I'll get to laugh harder the next time I read these guys don't know what they are doing. :)

ecosse wrote:

This really has been a life times work for Carl Nelson. His 1963 paper was produced not far off 50 years ago now.

If Carl does not understand Dialectric Saturation I don't know anyone that does!

He's been living it, eating it, breathing it for decades - before Y_Po was even a swimmer in his daddy's balls.

It looks like he's published a few research papers in his time too, in addition to having a degree from MIT.

Sooner or later some of our resident sceptics might even give him and Weir just a little more credit.

AD2 wrote:

Sooner or later some of our resident sceptics might even give him and Weir just a little more credit.

I think you might be wrong there, I have a feeling some of our resident skeptics won't give them credit even when their own next door neighbor is driving an EESU powered Subaru to work.

eestorblog wrote:

Carl W. Nelson



Note the acknowledgement to Von Hippel at MIT in this document.

Acknowledgment
The author wishes to express his appreciation to Professor A. von Hippel
for constant encouragement and to Professor W. N. Lipscomb of Harvard University
for having provided notes on group theory in its applications to chemical problems.
Thanks are due to Professor R. E. Newnham for valuable discussions.
Many of the ideas in this report were independently originated by Professor Lipscomb.

I believe Nelson was mentored by Von Hippell. Anyone have additional info on this???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_R._von_Hippel

Arthur R. von Hippel
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Arthur R. von Hippel
Born November 19, 1898
Rostock, Germany
Died December 31, 2003 (aged 105)
Residence Germany, Turkey, Denmark, U.S.
Citizenship American
Nationality German
Fields Physicist
Institutions Niels Bohr Institute, MIT
Alma mater University of Göttingen
Doctoral advisor James Franck
Known for Codeveloping radar during World War
Discovering the ferroelectric and piezoelectric properties of barium titanate
Notable awards President's Certificate of Merit
Notes
His uncle, Eugen von Hippel described the ophthalmic hemangiomata that are part of von Hippel-Lindau disease, which bears his name.
His son, Eric von Hippel, is an MIT economist.
Arthur Robert von Hippel (November 19, 1898 – December 31, 2003)[1] was a German American materials scientist and physicist. Von Hippel was a pioneer in the study of dielectrics, ferromagnetic and ferroelectric materials, and semiconductors and was a codeveloper of radar during World War II.
Contents [hide]
1 Early life
2 Career and achievements
3 References
4 Later life
5 External links
[edit]Early life

Von Hippel was born in Rostock, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, on November 19, 1898. He graduated in physics from the University of Göttingen, where he was taught by many eminent figures of mathematics and physics of the time, including David Hilbert, Richard Courant, Peter Debye, Robert Pohl, Max Born, Gustav Hertz, and Nobel Prize winner James Franck (who was his thesis supervisor). Von Hippel received his Ph.D. in physics in 1924, and in 1927 married Franck's daughter, Dagmar.
[edit]Career and achievements

In 1933, with the ascension of Nazis to power in Germany, von Hippel decided to move to another country, mainly because his wife was Jewish, but due also to his political stance against the new regime. Fortunately in 1934 he was able to secure a position with the University at Istanbul, Turkey, then spent a year in Denmark, working at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen. In 1936, accepting an invitation by Karl Compton, von Hippel moved again, this time to the U.S., and became an assistant professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In 1940 he founded the Laboratory for Insulation Research, which soon became one of the most important research and education centers in this area in the world.
Together with MIT's Radiation Lab, von Hippel and his collaborators helped to develop radar technology during the war. He was awarded the President's Certificate of Merit in 1948 by U.S. President Harry Truman. He became famous also for his discovery of ferroelectric and piezoelectric properties of barium titanate (BaTiO3).
He was the author of the pioneering book Molecular Science and Molecular Engineering (1959). The term molecular engineering was coined by him in the 1950s, and he suggested the feasibility of constructing nanomolecular devices. The premier award of the Materials Research Society is named in his honor.
[edit]References

^ Rose, Derek (January 4, 2004). "Arthur R. von Hippel". The Tech. Retrieved on 2008-05-10.
[edit]Later life

He died at 105 years of age, in 2003. His son, Eric von Hippel, is an MIT economist. His uncle, Eugen von Hippel, described the ophthalmic hemangiomata that are part of von Hippel-Lindau disease, which bears his name.
[edit]External links

Arthur von Hippel Memorial Web Site

Hey wait! Isn't Carl one of those two guys who incorporated fraudulent data in a patent application? Dick must have liquored him up with bad mesquite and talked him into it.

Of course, I'm open to better explanations. Oh, I forgot. Maybe they were doing things like measuring the leakage currents at open circuit voltage. It must be something like that!

Interesting research but it seems to me that the naysayers arguments about not enough energy tied up in the molecular dipoles and volumes makes a lot of sense, so it struck me about the reference to free protons and proton-less oxygen. My suspicion is that energy bands and proton 'orbits' within the nucleus must be involved. But what do I know!
BTW, Lt.Col Michael Obal was a classmate and friend (see reference to sensors in eestorblog's link)

duffeldorf III wrote:

ecosse wrote:

If Carl does not understand Dialectric Saturation I don't know anyone that does!

That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever read considering the paper makes not a single mention of it.

Have you heard yourself lately?

The Office of Naval Research was authorized by an Act of Congress, and subsequently approved by President Harry S. Truman on August 1, 1946.

In 63 years, more than 50 researchers have won a Nobel Prize for their ONR-funded work.
Hum, a nobel every 1.26 years from ONR funded research.
Glad Carl Nelson is on our side. :)

"Prototypes have been built and prototypes have been tested." Richard Weir, July 2008

Found some more of Nelsons Later work...
By 1985 he had moved to California and was working for Xebec, Inc I found this patent..

Xebec, Inc March 1985
Patent Number: US4503125
A protective overcoating is disclosed for a magnetic alloy thin-film recording disc that includes a magnetic alloy film formed on a disc-shaped substrate or coated substrate. The protective overcoating is formed by first sputtering onto the magnetic medium an interfacial layer of titanium, and then sputtering onto the titanium a layer of carbon. The sputtered carbon provides wear-resisting lubricity, while the titanium interface promotes the adhesion of the sputtered carbon to the magnetic medium of the recording disc.

In the 90's I found a paper from Seagate with published work from a C.W Nelson

Effect of RF substrate bias on crystalline orientation of chromiumand magnetic characteristics of 84% Co-16% Cr films

Published 1990
Fisher, R.D. Khan, M.R. Heiman, N. Nelson, C.W.
Seagate Magnetics, Fremont, CA;

and by 1993 he was with Tulip Memory with Mr. Weir.

For a list of Carl Nelson patents (not to be confused with patent applications), see: http://theeestory.com/files/Weir_or_Nelson_patents.pdf

duffeldorf III wrote:

ecosse wrote:

If Carl does not understand Dialectric Saturation I don't know anyone that does!

That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever read considering the paper makes not a single mention of it.

I haven't read the paper that you are probably right that he did not make a single mention of it. My statement and Carl Nelson's probable understanding of dialectric saturation is based on the fact he has clearly been associated with barium titanate and the characteristics of this substance for nearly 50 years.

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since Dielectric Saturation is "Dielectric 101", I think we can safely assume that Carl Nelson understands dielectric saturation. To try and convince people he doesnt is utter nonsense.

The whole point of the Complicated scientific structure and material mixures of the device "IS" to prevent Saturation, is it not? for someone who "allegedly" does not understand the basic problem with UC density, He sure has went to allot of trouble to prevent it.

the argument that Carl and Dick do not understand the basic principals of the device they are building is complete garbage.

Well, his and Weir's patents say they don't understand dielectric saturation.

But in reality, their patents say they understand saturation very well. so much so that they have spent the entire decade divising a material to prevent it.

Y_Po, that is FUD!!!

seslaprime wrote:

But in reality, their patents say they understand saturation very well.

so much so that they have spent the entire decade divising a material to prevent it.

Y_Po wrote:

Well, his and Weir's patents say they don't understand dielectric saturation.

But Nelson's earlier work shows that he must have understood it. So how do you explain the patent? Nelson forgot about saturation...after working in the field for 40 yrs? Just...oops, forgot about saturation. Dang.

Key Question: Is it easier to explain how Nelson forgot about saturation or that the patents are written purposely in such a way to raise these types of doubts?

eestorblog wrote:

Y_Po wrote:

Well, his and Weir's patents say they don't understand dielectric saturation.

But Nelson's earlier work shows that he must have understood it.

So how do you explain the patent? Nelson forgot about saturation...after working in the field for 40 yrs? Just...oops, forgot about saturation. Dang.

Key Question: Is it easier to explain how Nelson forgot about saturation or that the patents are written purposely in such a way to raise these types of doubts?

Saturation was purposefully redacted from the patent.

"The occurrence of ferroelectricity and antiferroelectricity in perovskitetype
oxides is inadequately explained by the postulate of an ionic model."
Carl W. Nelson, 1963

I'll say.

I've been referring to Eestor as Weir et al. That "et al" really doesn't do justice to Nelson.

PhilS wrote:

"The occurrence of ferroelectricity and antiferroelectricity in perovskitetype
oxides is inadequately explained by the postulate of an ionic model."
Carl W. Nelson, 1963

EEventually wrote:

Key Question: Is it easier to explain how Nelson forgot about saturation or that the patents are written purposely in such a way to raise these types of doubts?

Saturation was purposefully redacted from the patent.

I vaguely remember having same conversation a year ago.

Simplest explanation is: he never understood it.

Y_Po, even though I'm usually inclined to state that you have a valid position to most of your arguments, that statement is about as farcical as it gets.

Based on the man's resume, you might have stated something like:

He's in on the hoax.
He's being paid off.
He's lost his mind and is playing with tinfoil hats.

Those statements could be defended as possible explanations for his backing the EEStor.

But... he never understood it. That's not even trying Y_Po. You can argue better than that.

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