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Sometime recently, likely in the fall of 2009, ZMC hired Jane Huang, PMP MBA P.ENG.

That's certified Project Manager, Master of Business Administration, and Professional Engineer.

Her previous experience?
* Senior Project Manager/Engineer at General Motors
* Business and Operation at General Motors
* Project Engineer, Powertrain Integration at General Motors

And, to top it all off, she has a black belt in karate.

I guess ZMC is really serious about trying to fool people into thinking that they are developing drivetrains.

Do you think Jane would take the job without seeing an eesu?

ShortEE wrote:

Sometime recently, likely in the fall of 2009, ZMC hired Jane Huang, PMP MBA P.ENG.

That's certified Project Manager, Master of Business Administration, and Professional Engineer.

Her previous experience?
* Senior Project Manager/Engineer at General Motors
* Business and Operation at General Motors
* Project Engineer, Powertrain Integration at General Motors

And, to top it all off, she has a black belt in karate.

I guess ZMC is really serious about trying to fool people into thinking that they are developing drivetrains.

A lot of evidence of marketing and project management, not so much engineering...

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broschultz wrote:

Do you think Jane would take the job without seeing an eesu?

I suspect that a lot of people at Zenn have not seen an EESU.

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dfwrunner wrote:

A lot of evidence of marketing and project management, not so much engineering...

Um...

Senior Project Manager/Engineer at General Motors
Business and Operation at General Motors
Project Engineer, Powertrain Integration at General Motors

Seriously, not so much engineering? And where do you get marketing from?

"Professional Engineer"? what does it even mean?

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Y_Po wrote:

"Professional Engineer"? what does it even mean?

Per wikipedia
"Professional Engineer (see below for various abbreviations) is the term for registered or licensed engineers in some countries who are permitted to offer their professional services directly to the public.

The term Professional Engineer and the actual practice of professional engineering is legally defined and protected by a government body. In some jurisdictions only registered or licensed Professional Engineers are permitted to use the title, or to practice Professional Engineering.

The earmark that distinguishes a licensed/registered Professional Engineer is the authority to sign and seal or "stamp" engineering documents (reports, drawings, and calculations) for a study, estimate, design or analysis, thus taking legal responsibility for it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Engineer

ShortEE wrote:

dfwrunner wrote:

A lot of evidence of marketing and project management, not so much engineering...

Um...

Senior Project Manager/Engineer at General Motors
Business and Operation at General Motors
Project Engineer, Powertrain Integration at General Motors

Seriously, not so much engineering? And where do you get marketing from?

Assuming she wasn't just an absolute 'catch', to grab on a chance, this one, at least, seems inconceivable if Zenn (a) is not reasonably sure of an EESU to power the train she's supposed to integrate, and (b) reasonably clear on its specs.
(Unless of course she's a Popular Science specialist.)
Which seems to shift the weight of skepticism pretty firmly and solely onto Eestor deluding ZENN, themselves, or both. No way to know that one (beyond the usual circumstantials), but the weight, for me, is shifting firmly away from ZENN.

http://ca.linkedin.com/in/janehuangpmp

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Fibb222 wrote:

http://ca.linkedin.com/in/janehuangpmp

...and she looks to be Chinese, which wouldn't hurt.

brianjones wrote:

Fibb222 wrote:

http://ca.linkedin.com/in/janehuangpmp

...and she looks to be Chinese, which wouldn't hurt.

as in "fluent in English, Chinese(Mandarin and Cantonese) and basic French."

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too pretty to be a real engineer

Last edited Fri, 22 Jan 2010, 2:28pm by Y_Po

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Fibb222 wrote:

brianjones wrote:

Fibb222 wrote:

http://ca.linkedin.com/in/janehuangpmp

...and she looks to be Chinese, which wouldn't hurt.

as in "fluent in English, Chinese(Mandarin and Cantonese) and basic French."

A moment of silence for Poor Jane, who's traded a promising career for hot-shirts and delusions.
If she'd only listened to CRJohn.
Even I could'a told her, who've never seen anything.

Y_Po wrote:

too pretty to be a real enhineer

Now that's dirty.

ShortEE wrote:

dfwrunner wrote:

A lot of evidence of marketing and project management, not so much engineering...

Um...

Senior Project Manager/Engineer at General Motors
Business and Operation at General Motors
Project Engineer, Powertrain Integration at General Motors

Seriously, not so much engineering? And where do you get marketing from?

I see "Project Engineer". Project engineer's are typically paper pushers (managers, personnel/team coordination) not "real engineers".

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Y_Po wrote:

too pretty to be a real enhineer

If you were trying to be funny then that is hillarious!

If not, then not so much.

With posts like these the mystery just seems to deepen creating a seemingly larger divide between real or not real for the EESU. Why hire someone like this? To continue to perpetuate a scam or readying/positioning oneself for the great release/breakthrough. I have visited here less frequently since there was no new year announcement but posts like these are nice to see. Thanks..

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dfwrunner wrote:

I see "Project Engineer". Project engineer's are typically paper pushers (managers, personnel/team coordination) not "real engineers".

So your assertion is that she is not a "real engineer"?

Yeah, what is "project engineer"?

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With the tone/subject of the posts in the last 2 months, I have been alternating between laughing hysterically and pounding my head against the desktop until bloody. Really, I can quit this anytime; why does my family keep looking at me strangely?!?

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ShortEE wrote:

dfwrunner wrote:

I see "Project Engineer". Project engineer's are typically paper pushers (managers, personnel/team coordination) not "real engineers".

So your assertion is that she is not a "real engineer"?

Not at all, I'm saying that she had advanced beyond engineering into project management and that she was probably hired for a project management role rather than strictly engineering (e.g. designing circuits). "project engineer is a very common title for someone IN project management.

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dfwrunner
Yeah, and unless this photo was taken 20 years ago she advanced into "project" engineering pretty damn quickly.

Zenn need to hire ugly old man to impress me

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dfwrunner wrote:

ShortEE wrote:

dfwrunner wrote:

I see "Project Engineer". Project engineer's are typically paper pushers (managers, personnel/team coordination) not "real engineers".

So your assertion is that she is not a "real engineer"?

Not at all, I'm saying that she had advanced beyond engineering into project management and that she was probably hired for a project management role rather than strictly engineering (e.g. designing circuits). "project engineer is a very common title for someone IN project management.

A Project Manager must be capable of understanding all aspects of the works their engineers under them do. Project Engineers are usually very well accomplished Engineers that can work well with others (yes i know it's an oxymoron). Other Managers who don't need engineering skills are the ones that then supervise the Project Managers.

Y_Po wrote:

dfwrunner
Yeah, and unless this photo was taken 20 years ago she advanced into "project" engineering pretty damn quickly.


Zenn need to hire ugly old man to impress me

It's good to see your maturity finally catching up to your age.

Deniers are going to be with this one for a while...

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cman wrote:

Y_Po wrote:

dfwrunner
Yeah, and unless this photo was taken 20 years ago she advanced into "project" engineering pretty damn quickly.


Zenn need to hire ugly old man to impress me

It's good to see your maturity finally catching up to your age.

Do you have a point to make?

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Y_Po wrote:

dfwrunner
Yeah, and unless this photo was taken 20 years ago she advanced into "project" engineering pretty damn quickly.


Zenn need to hire ugly old man to impress me

hmmmm. Who do you suggest? I am old enough to be called old, but I am very handsome. How old are you? Maybe Abe Vigoda? He is not dead yet. :)

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In NY a professional engineer has to have either an engineering degree from an accredited engineering school or a lot of documented engineering experience plus must pass several written exams on different engineering subjects. "Practicing" the profession of engineering, like "practicing" medicine without a license is a crime in NY. That being said it's not difficult to pass the tests as they cover basic engineering problems.
There are experience requirments that must be met before you can sit for the tests.

broschultz wrote:

In NY a professional engineer has to have either an engineering degree from an accredited engineering school or a lot of documented engineering experience plus must pass several written exams on different engineering subjects. "Practicing" the profession of engineering, like "practicing" medicine without a license is a crime in NY. That being said it's not difficult to pass the tests as they cover basic engineering problems.
There are experience requirments that must be met before you can sit for the tests.

I was under the understanding that in the US you don't have to be accredited to use the title Engineer? Or is it you don't need the title to do equivalent work (you just can't use the title). I know up here in Canada you cannot do public engineering work or use the title without accreditation.

Also have you taken their tests before? I know the US is slightly easier than Canada's Electrical Engineering tests but I'm sure its still far from being 'not difficult'.

broschultz wrote:

In NY a professional engineer has to have either an engineering degree from an accredited engineering school or a lot of documented engineering experience plus must pass several written exams on different engineering subjects. "Practicing" the profession of engineering, like "practicing" medicine without a license is a crime in NY. That being said it's not difficult to pass the tests as they cover basic engineering problems.
There are experience requirments that must be met before you can sit for the tests.

And is it me, or does this
"* Senior Project Manager/Engineer at General Motors"
not mean she was also an engineer at GM (and it would seem a damn good one)?