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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 3:35pm #1
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The company I own has been around for 40+ years now and it has a few notable similarites to Eestor.My company designs, builds and markets specialty equipment to an international customer base.(As apparently does Eestor)
That said, it can be a fairly small select circle where most of the players are aware of the reputations of whom they are dealing with.
Using my contacts it is fairly easy to find out whether a new potential contact is a straight shooter,a timewaster,a bullsh...ter or someone who doesn't pay his bills in a timely fashion.I myself have relayed personal opinions of character from time to time when asked, as well I have been the recipient of some valuable insight and information from colleages,old friends,and vendors.(I'm sure That I have also been vetted as well).
Are there any old Navy buddies,past colleages or current friends reading this blog that could vouch for DW's character I wonder?I really do believe it all comes down to him having a philosophy.I have skin in the game and an interest that this works out for all.

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 4:05pm #2
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The one that first comes to mind is DW's former venture partner at Titanium X / Tulip Memory systems (the hard drive platter business) who spoke very highly of DW, even though the venture failed.

Unfortunately, I have failed to locate that particular nugget, yet.

Second one is a brief article B wrote:
Titanium X Memory Lane

"They're smart. They know a hell of a lot about materials. They're really good at the formulation, IP, & Pilot line stuff. "


Go DW Go - *economical* mass production

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 4:35pm #3
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hotpass wrote:

The company I own has been around for 40+ years now and it has a few notable similarites to Eestor.My company designs, builds and markets specialty equipment to an international customer base.(As apparently does Eestor)
That said, it can be a fairly small select circle where most of the players are aware of the reputations of whom they are dealing with.
Using my contacts it is fairly easy to find out whether a new potential contact is a straight shooter,a timewaster,a bullsh...ter or someone who doesn't pay his bills in a timely fashion.I myself have relayed personal opinions of character from time to time when asked, as well I have been the recipient of some valuable insight and information from colleages,old friends,and vendors.(I'm sure That I have also been vetted as well).
Are there any old Navy buddies,past colleages or current friends reading this blog that could vouch for DW's character I wonder?I really do believe it all comes down to him having a philosophy.I have skin in the game and an interest that this works out for all.

Krussel, mentioned in the article Nekote references above will sing Dick's praises. He said Dick is tenacious and cost conscious. The former CEO has been quoted in the press as saying they are solid people.

The best thing to do is ask around. Carl Nelson has worked with a ton of people in Silicon Valley. His colleagues at MIT that I could track down speak highly of him.

You are correct. A person's reputation is a valuable thing. It's earned over and over every day. Take a guy like W. Michael Long. His new communications company in DC is all about trust and credibility. He spoke highly of Dick Weir. If something was rotten in Cedar Park, Long wouldn't....COULDNT touch it with a 10 foot pole.

Dick & Carl have said this technology does exactly what their patents say it does, ie, store enormous amounts of energy.


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 4:41pm #4
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Merci! This I find is the most reassuring post in quite a while


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 4:45pm #5
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SavageKiD wrote:

Merci! This I find is the most reassuring post in quite a while

I agree. The trust issue is the biggest thing in my book. Trusting someone who wears a bag can only happen here!


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 4:47pm #6
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When B was born the first thing his father wanted to know....

paper or plastic!


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 8:50pm #7
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Is this the man who wrecked the buffet?


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 9:11pm #8
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I listened to the leaked audio tape many times looking for clues to Dick Weirs's character. Nothing in that audio spoke ill of his character, IMHO .


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 9:13pm #9
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If I was a cartoon character I would be grape ape.


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 9:17pm #10
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loski wrote:

I listened to the leaked audio tape many times looking for clues to Dick Weirs's character. Nothing in that audio spoke ill of his character, IMHO .

Ayup, a classic snake oil salesman, DW is.


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 9:18pm #11
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your killing my buzz man


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 9:21pm #12
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Yukon wrote:

Is this the man who wrecked the buffet?

love that line


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 9:52pm #13
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heinrichII wrote:

loski wrote:

I listened to the leaked audio tape many times looking for clues to Dick Weirs's character. Nothing in that audio spoke ill of his character, IMHO .

Ayup, a classic snake oil salesman, DW is.

Social intelligence your strong suit?

To be fair to you, I did hear a strong salesman in that audio, but my take is that he believes in his product, and knows his way around an investor pow wow.

This is not for shy engineers, it takes some sales skill to raise millions.

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 10:08pm #14
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eeinterested wrote:

heinrichII wrote:

loski wrote:

I listened to the leaked audio tape many times looking for clues to Dick Weirs's character. Nothing in that audio spoke ill of his character, IMHO .

Ayup, a classic snake oil salesman, DW is.

Social intelligence your strong suit?

To be fair to you, I did hear a strong salesman in that audio, but my take is that he believes in his product, and knows his way around an investor pow wow.


Qualities of great snake oil salesman.

This is not for shy engineers, it takes some sales skill to raise millions.

No doubt about it.


Q: What would happen if you give 12V battery and two 6V light bulbs to Weir/Nelson?

A: They will wait 8 years for 12V➜6V DC-DC converter.

http://theeestory.com/topics/3687
http://theeestory.com/topics/2105
http://theeestory.com/topics/4835

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 10:14pm #15
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Oh, by the way, Hitler was great salesman too.


Q: What would happen if you give 12V battery and two 6V light bulbs to Weir/Nelson?

A: They will wait 8 years for 12V➜6V DC-DC converter.

http://theeestory.com/topics/3687
http://theeestory.com/topics/2105
http://theeestory.com/topics/4835

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 10:28pm #16
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Y_Po wrote:

Oh, by the way, Hitler was great salesman too.

But Hitler didn't love America did he? :O)


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 10:39pm #17
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student wrote:

Y_Po wrote:

Oh, by the way, Hitler was great salesman too.

But Hitler didn't love America did he? :O)


True, but he loved Germany.


Q: What would happen if you give 12V battery and two 6V light bulbs to Weir/Nelson?

A: They will wait 8 years for 12V➜6V DC-DC converter.

http://theeestory.com/topics/3687
http://theeestory.com/topics/2105
http://theeestory.com/topics/4835

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 10:44pm #18
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student wrote:

Y_Po wrote:

Oh, by the way, Hitler was great salesman too.

But Hitler didn't love America did he? :O)

Student,

Hitler clearly loved Germany. Americans should think about how the Superman creed gels for people outside America LOL. (For God, For Right and For the American way). Ardent patriotism seems less relevant in the global village.

But all this aside, there was nothing in the leaked presentation that gave me any confidence in DW's character. However, it is fair to say he was in sales mode and I always question sales people.

The other information available to us allowed me to form a net positive impression of DW and CN. It was certainly good enough for their reputations to corroborate the other information and allow me the comfort to invest. They impress the heck out of me :-)

Dunno why someone would question their character after investing??

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 10:48pm #19
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People can seem and sound sincere when they have sung the same song so long that they believe it themselves. The best can fool any lie detector test.

He has got to be saying "if only I can get this damn things to work."
Well it seems he cannot.

Surely we can find someone who lives in the neighborhood and can get inside to really see what is going on.....

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 10:55pm #20
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I know for the fact that at the time of interview Weir was aware that he was lying. Of course in business world it is called bending the truth I mean good salesmanship :)


Q: What would happen if you give 12V battery and two 6V light bulbs to Weir/Nelson?

A: They will wait 8 years for 12V➜6V DC-DC converter.

http://theeestory.com/topics/3687
http://theeestory.com/topics/2105
http://theeestory.com/topics/4835

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:06pm #21
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Y_Po wrote:

I know for the fact that at the time of interview Weir was aware that he was lying. Of course in business world it is called bending the truth I mean good salesmanship :)


Can you be "lying" if you are unaware? No. Lying by definition, is intent to deceive. You can't intend to do something if you are unaware that you are doing it.

In the business world, it's called shit happens. Obviously, you have no idea about the business world. However, your grip on grade 10 science is quite solid. I'd stick to those textbooks if I were you.

As for the "lying" argument coming back, yet again, like the Earth making yet another surprising revolution around the Sun, well, it's getting old.

It reminds me of a saying my dad says quite often. "Fences only keep honest people out". I think it's quite a telling sign of a person's character if they always assume people are lying to them. Does this mean your first instinct is to lie to people? Or are you simply just paranoid?


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:11pm #22
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bitslider wrote:

Y_Po wrote:

I know for the fact that at the time of interview Weir was aware that he was lying. Of course in business world it is called bending the truth I mean good salesmanship :)

Can you be "lying" if you are unaware?

Yes you can!
No. Lying by definition, is intent to deceive. You can't intend to do something if you are unaware that you are doing it.

It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is
In the business world, it's called shit happens. Obviously, you have no idea about the business world.

And it did happen to Zenn/EEstor investors :)

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Q: What would happen if you give 12V battery and two 6V light bulbs to Weir/Nelson?

A: They will wait 8 years for 12V➜6V DC-DC converter.

http://theeestory.com/topics/3687
http://theeestory.com/topics/2105
http://theeestory.com/topics/4835

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:24pm #23
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Y_Po wrote:

bitslider wrote:

Y_Po wrote:

I know for the fact that at the time of interview Weir was aware that he was lying. Of course in business world it is called bending the truth I mean good salesmanship :)

Can you be "lying" if you are unaware?

Yes you can!
No. Lying by definition, is intent to deceive. You can't intend to do something if you are unaware that you are doing it.

It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is
In the business world, it's called shit happens. Obviously, you have no idea about the business world.

And it did happen to Zenn/EEstor investors :)

How can you intend something without knowing? Or are were you intending to be ironic without knowing?


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:27pm #24
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It's called being deluded.


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:30pm #25
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Snake oil salesman DW did (still does) a great job smearing the gulible for a living. Caveat emptor.
Shit happened, dudes.


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:36pm #26
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heinrichII wrote:

It's called being deluded.

IF you're deluded, you aren't lying because you believe it. You know, there are lots of free dictionaries on the internet...


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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:37pm #27
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heinrichII wrote:


Shit happened, dudes.

ha-ha-ha, good one.


Q: What would happen if you give 12V battery and two 6V light bulbs to Weir/Nelson?

A: They will wait 8 years for 12V➜6V DC-DC converter.

http://theeestory.com/topics/3687
http://theeestory.com/topics/2105
http://theeestory.com/topics/4835

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Tue, 02 Mar 2010, 11:44pm #28
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heinrichII wrote:

Snake oil salesman DW did (still does) a great job smearing the gulible for a living. Caveat emptor.
Shit happened, dudes.

Only smearing around here comes from the like of folks like yourselves.

Tell me, were you personally hurt by this guy? Did he turn you down, not accept your flowers? Or did you lose money on ZNN stocks? You either have an axe to grind, or you feel you are "saving" us poor suckers from the evils of Darth Weir and company. Since nobody here is looking to be saved, maybe it's the third option....web forum "fame".


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Wed, 03 Mar 2010, 12:30am #29
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bitslider wrote:

heinrichII wrote:

Shit happened, dudes.

IF you're deluded, you aren't lying because you believe it. You know, there are lots of free dictionaries on the internet...

Only smearing around here comes from the like of folks like yourselves.

Tell me, were you personally hurt by this guy? Did he turn you down, not accept your flowers? Or did you lose money on ZNN stocks? You either have an axe to grind, or you feel you are "saving" us poor suckers from the evils of Darth Weir and company. Since nobody here is looking to be saved, maybe it's the third option....web forum "fame".

BS, er, bitslider, in either the case of lying or that of delusion, the statement, "shit happened dudes," would be entirely relevant.

I sense you are experiencing Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Many people who do, resort to ad hominem as you just have.

energy investor wrote:

They impress the heck out of me :-) Dunno why someone would question their character after investing??

Not to question DW's character (who can question the character of an American Patriot?), but it is a valid point that people change. After all, Lex Luthor was just as much American as Superman. He was a good person at first, right? Maybe he gave up American ideals for foreign ones?

The OP seems to have come at the matter from a reasonable viewpoint. He seems to have an interest in winnowing out DW's character so investors are better able to navigate the current uncertainty surrounding ZMC's future. Not everyone is as talented as the great Energy Investor at judging character on first sight.

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