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Mon, 29 Aug 2011, 7:11pm #91
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Interesting collection of photos. Draw your own conclusions.

Disclaimer: I am an Independent.

http://www.theeestory.com/files/PoliticalParties.jpg

sooo, conservative women are attractive but stupid, liberal women the opposite? mmmkay.

well, except michelle malkin is ugly, and ann coulter is really a man. they're both really stupid.

oh, and you can't tell from the pic, but nancy pelosi has a great rack.

Again, do I need to point out why liberals are incapable of forming clear opinions of things. Let me see Malkin and Coulter are ugly and manly and pelosi is a babe. Is this really what you are saying? LOLOLOLOLOLOL. You are too much supermark.


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HEEman wrote:

supamark wrote:

wcushman wrote:

Interesting collection of photos. Draw your own conclusions.

Disclaimer: I am an Independent.

sooo, conservative women are attractive but stupid, liberal women the opposite? mmmkay.

well, except michelle malkin is ugly, and ann coulter is really a man. they're both really stupid.

oh, and you can't tell from the pic, but nancy pelosi has a great rack.

Again, do I need to point out why liberals are incapable of forming clear opinions of things. Let me see Malkin and Coulter are ugly and manly and pelosi is a babe. Is this really what you are saying? LOLOLOLOLOLOL. You are too much supermark.

no, what I said are Coulter and Malkin are ugly (they are) and Pelosi has a nice rack. have you seen her rack? she's got tig ol' bitties as we say here in Texas. I also said Ann Coulter is a man... have you noticed her big ol' adam's apple? as Austin Powers would say, "That's a man baby!"

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Um, pardon me, Fibb, but linking to Wikipedia, Democracy Now and The New Yorker isn't exactly going to be viewed by those on the right as "bringing your A game", sir.

No offense intended here, but pretty much everybody outside of MSNBC hosts thinks the Dominionist stuff is total crap.

Regarding Bachmann versus Romney or Perry: I much prefer to see a record of effective executive leadership to point to, but I think it's a hoot that the incumbent President, now that he has a record of two and a half years or so, loses to my favorite candidate in every poll.

Vote Generic Republican '12! ... his background is less of a mystery than the current incumbent! ... :-)

(Sorry, sorry, sorry ... I feel like I just farted in church)
Yes fibb why are you picking on Perry, who happens to have an excellent record as guvinor of Texas, yet you fail to talk about the abysmal record of obama? Why don't you display some of obama's accomplishments here so everyone can see what you are so proud of?

lol, "excellent"? he's a terrible governor.

here's some accomplishments:

Texas schools are consistently ranked near the bottom. every year. he thought it more important in the last lege session to cut $4billion from school funding than use some money in our "rainy day fund" which would cover it and refused to allow property tax hikes to cover it.

we may have decent unemployment figures, but we have the lowest coverage of healthcare in the nation. mainly because most of our job growth is in places like WalMart.

he tried to force young girls to have a genital wart (HPV) vaccine. I actually agreed because it would save thousands of lives (genital warts cause a very nasty form of cervical cancer), but he did it because he was paid by Merck, the maker of the vaccine.

he's one of the most corrupt governors not in Louisiana or Illinois. he takes a LOT of bribes and kickbacks.

he's an idiot, and actually makes W appear brilliant.

LOL supermark. He created 1 million jobs and you are saying they are all at walmart? Try again. The level of jobs he created is arguable but there is nothing to argue when it comes to what obama has created. How many jobs have been lost since obama took office? A zillion maybe? LOLOLOLOL

the jobs he "created" are shit. first off, he didn't create any jobs. those jobs happened because a LOT of people moved to TX. fun fact, TX has the highest percentage of workers employed below minimum wage. so, yes, all those jobs were at Walmart (or worse).

the jobs lost while Obama has been in office can be traced back to the housing crash, which happened before Obama took office you fucking retard. the continuing weakness is due to republicans saying "no" to every proposal that's come down to create jobs (or anything else). they do this because gaining power is far more important to them than governing in the interests of the people they're supposed to represent.

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Mon, 29 Aug 2011, 7:43pm #94
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supamark wrote:

HEEman wrote:

supamark wrote:

HEEman wrote:

ogiw wrote:

Um, pardon me, Fibb, but linking to Wikipedia, Democracy Now and The New Yorker isn't exactly going to be viewed by those on the right as "bringing your A game", sir.

No offense intended here, but pretty much everybody outside of MSNBC hosts thinks the Dominionist stuff is total crap.

Regarding Bachmann versus Romney or Perry: I much prefer to see a record of effective executive leadership to point to, but I think it's a hoot that the incumbent President, now that he has a record of two and a half years or so, loses to my favorite candidate in every poll.

Vote Generic Republican '12! ... his background is less of a mystery than the current incumbent! ... :-)

(Sorry, sorry, sorry ... I feel like I just farted in church)
Yes fibb why are you picking on Perry, who happens to have an excellent record as guvinor of Texas, yet you fail to talk about the abysmal record of obama? Why don't you display some of obama's accomplishments here so everyone can see what you are so proud of?

lol, "excellent"? he's a terrible governor.

here's some accomplishments:

Texas schools are consistently ranked near the bottom. every year. he thought it more important in the last lege session to cut $4billion from school funding than use some money in our "rainy day fund" which would cover it and refused to allow property tax hikes to cover it.

we may have decent unemployment figures, but we have the lowest coverage of healthcare in the nation. mainly because most of our job growth is in places like WalMart.

he tried to force young girls to have a genital wart (HPV) vaccine. I actually agreed because it would save thousands of lives (genital warts cause a very nasty form of cervical cancer), but he did it because he was paid by Merck, the maker of the vaccine.

he's one of the most corrupt governors not in Louisiana or Illinois. he takes a LOT of bribes and kickbacks.

he's an idiot, and actually makes W appear brilliant.

LOL supermark. He created 1 million jobs and you are saying they are all at walmart? Try again. The level of jobs he created is arguable but there is nothing to argue when it comes to what obama has created. How many jobs have been lost since obama took office? A zillion maybe? LOLOLOLOL

the jobs he "created" are shit. first off, he didn't create any jobs. those jobs happened because a LOT of people moved to TX. fun fact, TX has the highest percentage of workers employed below minimum wage. so, yes, all those jobs were at Walmart (or worse).

the jobs lost while Obama has been in office can be traced back to the housing crash, which happened before Obama took office you fucking retard. the continuing weakness is due to republicans saying "no" to every proposal that's come down to create jobs (or anything else). they do this because gaining power is far more important to them than governing in the interests of the people they're supposed to represent.

LOLOLOLOL again. The repubs have been in office how long and you are already blaming them for no jobs. Allllrighty then.


In a redneck sort a way, we only have so much ass to cash that check against.

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Mon, 29 Aug 2011, 7:44pm #95
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LOL supermark. He created 1 million jobs and you are saying they are all at walmart? Try again. The level of jobs he created is arguable but there is nothing to argue when it comes to what obama has created. How many jobs have been lost since obama took office? A zillion maybe? LOLOLOLOL

http://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4bb614577f8b9a1667ae0100/chart-020510-update.gif

from http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day...

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Mon, 29 Aug 2011, 8:01pm #96
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Oh boy, I know a few who will be tempted to put the tin foil hat...
Some of them I agree are quite controversial, but others there are definite backing.
One in particular is operation Northwoods (March 62)

http://dont-tread-on.me/operation-false-flag-a-...

Didn't know that one from the list, the USS Liberty, June 1967
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html

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Mon, 29 Aug 2011, 8:12pm #97
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Perry didn't create jobs, he poached jobs from other states by gutting important and useful regulations and taxes that pay for things that people want and need.

Other states are trying it too. That causes a race to the bottom - states try to out-whore themselves to corporations.

At some point you have to ask yourself, what can a politician do to encourage corporations hire workers. Not much except fuck over the air, water, human rights, working conditions, benefits - basically the whole middle class' existence.

And who said there will be enough decent jobs for all people that want them? Huge productivity gains and technological advancement are making decent jobs more and more scarce.

Add to the fact that the US corporations that do hire workers are hiring them from overseas.

US corporations are sitting on record levels of cash and are very profitable. They won't make more money by spending that cash on the hiring of more workers. They make more money by lending it out.

It's time to start looking closely at new models for funding our day to day existence.

As our technology advances, our economies will grow and wealth will be created, but more and more people won't be able to find work to sustain their financial existence. At some point we are going to have to share the wealth that is created with those people.

Everyone, just for being alive, should have the right to free shelter, healthcare, nutritious food, and clothing. This can be achieved by the state giving people a guaranteed annual income.

Beyond that, if you desire more material possessions and you don't have other means, you will have to work a traditional job, and compete for whatever jobs are left in the brave new world.

A guaranteed annual income would solve a lot of social problems and would save a lot of wasted money on social programs, courts, prisons, and healthcare and social costs related to poverty.

Poverty is very expensive.


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Whoops looks like Fibb and supermark are wrong again. This won't stop them from posting their BS though.

Bachmann Brushes off Hurricane Joke
Monday, 29 Aug 2011 05:41 PM
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Republican White House hopeful Michele Bachmann insisted Monday she was joking when she said a hurricane and quake were God's warning to Washington, in an effort to control the damage from her latest controversial comments.
The Tea Party favorite raised eyebrows with a weekend remark to supporters in Florida that Hurricane Irene, which killed at least 24 people and left millions without power, and an East Coast earthquake were God's way of telling U.S. politicians to cut spending and fix the budget deficit.

"I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?"' Bachmann said at a campaign event in Sarasota on Sunday.

"Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending," she said.

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Bachmann, among the top three candidates seen to have a chance to win the Republican nomination and take on President Barack Obama next year, made similar comments elsewhere in Florida Saturday, drawing some laughs from her audience.

When the remarks began drawing wide attention, she went into some damage control.

"Of course I was being humorous when I said that. It would be absurd to think it was anything else," Bachmann said on Monday on a campaign stop in Miami.

"I am a person who loves humor, I have a great sense of humor," she said.

The hurricane drenched Vermont and caused the worst flooding in the state for 80 years. The 5.8 magnitude earthquake, a rare occurrence on the East Coast, shook up Washington and did minor damage to the Capitol building and Washington Monument.

Many comments by Bachmann, a Minnesota congresswoman, have come under scrutiny since she surged toward the head of the Republican election race over the summer.

During her campaign roll-out in June, she declared that iconic American actor John Wayne was from her hometown of Waterloo, Iowa, when in fact he was born 150 miles away.

She has also been quizzed about a remark that suggested wives should be submissive to their husbands, and in a recent speech confused Elvis' birthday with the anniversary of his death.

Bachmann told her Miami audience Monday that if she was elected president, "you won't see any teleprompter in the White House." She criticized Obama for often using one for speeches.

Bachmann is popular in the fiscally conservative Tea Party movement and with religious social conservatives. She won an important poll in the early voting state of Iowa earlier this month but recent surveys have shown her lagging behind Texas Governor Rick Perry and moderate Mitt Romney.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Bachmann Brushes off Hurricane Joke
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In a redneck sort a way, we only have so much ass to cash that check against.

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I like bicycles. Sorry, I just had to get this off my chest. Not in the intimate kind of way but as a good form of entertainment and exercise (sorry, talking about bicycles again). Have a nice day; oh wait, unless that would insult your political views otherwise go kiss a....bicycle!


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I see a problem with the bicycle party as it would quickly split into the front-wheeled favoring party and the back-wheeled favoring party with the middle seat party being pulled in both directions to commit to one way or another!!!!! Auuuuuugghhhh! Don't even get me started with the bicycle horn versus the bicycle bell special interest groups!!!!!! That's it, I don't like bicycles anymore.


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Too one dimensional - and they have a tendency to waffle back and forth to maintain balance - hey, wait a minute! Ok, I support unicycles, where do I send my money?


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Fault Line Explained .. . . .http://www.theeestory.com/files/fault.JPG


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There is fault, it belongs to all of us. There is a solution,it is ours as well.

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"I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?"' Bachmann said at a campaign event in Sarasota on Sunday.

The way Bachman talks all of those dozens of people that were killed in Hurricane Irene must have been high ranking Democrats. This lady should not speak in public, to make jest of dozens of peoples deaths for imagined political gain is irresponsible.
She wants to run a country?
She says she won't need telepromters in the White House if she is elected. Is she looking to host Saturday Night Live? Give us a break. In a few years she will be in Vegas doing standup not in Washington doing sitdowns. :)

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Santorum thinks that wars are a good idea, if only to just stay busy and keep the fires of capitalism burning.


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Fibb wrote:

Perry didn't create jobs, he poached jobs from other states by gutting important and useful regulations and taxes that pay for things that people want and need.

Other states are trying it too. That causes a race to the bottom - states try to out-whore themselves to corporations.

At some point you have to ask yourself, what can a politician do to encourage corporations hire workers. Not much except fuck over the air, water, human rights, working conditions, benefits - basically the whole middle class' existence.

And who said there will be enough decent jobs for all people that want them? Huge productivity gains and technological advancement are making decent jobs more and more scarce.

Add to the fact that the US corporations that do hire workers are hiring them from overseas.

US corporations are sitting on record levels of cash and are very profitable. They won't make more money by spending that cash on the hiring of more workers. They make more money by lending it out.

It's time to start looking closely at new models for funding our day to day existence.

As our technology advances, our economies will grow and wealth will be created, but more and more people won't be able to find work to sustain their financial existence. At some point we are going to have to share the wealth that is created with those people.

Everyone, just for being alive, should have the right to free shelter, healthcare, nutritious food, and clothing. This can be achieved by the state giving people a guaranteed annual income.

Beyond that, if you desire more material possessions and you don't have other means, you will have to work a traditional job, and compete for whatever jobs are left in the brave new world.

A guaranteed annual income would solve a lot of social problems and would save a lot of wasted money on social programs, courts, prisons, and healthcare and social costs related to poverty.

Poverty is very expensive.


Fibb, I'll grant you this is partially true at least about poaching jobs. The thing is the rest of the world has been poaching US jobs for some time using the same strategy. The US is going to have to get serious about being competitive in the world and you do this by promoting business not vilifying it or promoting unions. If someone like Perry would poach global jobs for the US, I'm in favor.


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http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/28/gore-global-w...

Al Gore has compared climate skeptics to rascists. Is it just my imagination or do extreme liberals always end up accusing conservatives who disagree with their positions of rascism at some point in the debate? This is really beyond the pale.

There is a legitimate scientific debate about the extent to which the well doccumented changes in our atmosphere will influence our climate. It is not a simple question because the climate in the interglacial periods is quite varriable to begin with. There is excellent data to show this. We are likely nearing the end of the current interglacial period. Any projections of the impact of human activities need to be understood with in this context.


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Wow, here's a wild and crazy idea. Revoke NAFTA and GATT, impose import tariffs, that will make it unwise to continue to manufacture overseas. Oh, I know, the cost of living will soar. Yeah, but Americans will be employed, the tax base will grow, housing will recover, and in the end it will balance out. The Chinese and Indians have both said they have a market now that they don't need the U.S.'s business. So let's take it away, and rebuild our economy. Yes, I'm talking protectionism, so what? One other thing, let's make all the illegal immigrants legal, so they are paying members of society. There, that should piss off both sides. Okay, take your shots.


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I agree with you tf49. Close it up and make all the immigrants legal to pay taxes and work in the new factories. Economy should get better quick. :)

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I report, you decide....

“I remember, again going back to my early years in the South, when the Civil Rights revolution was unfolding, there were two things that really made an impression on me,” Gore said. “My generation watched Bull Connor turning the hose on civil rights demonstrators and we went, ‘Whoa! How gross and evil is that?’ My generation asked old people, ‘Explain to me again why it is okay to discriminate against people because their skin color is different?’ And when they couldn’t really answer that question with integrity, the change really started.”

The former vice president recalled how society succeeded in marginalizing racists and said climate change skeptics must be defeated in the same manner.

“Secondly, back to this phrase ‘win the conversation,’” he continued. “There came a time when friends or people you work with or people you were in clubs with — you’re much younger than me so you didn’t have to go through this personally — but there came a time when racist comments would come up in the course of the conversation and in years past they were just natural. Then there came a time when people would say, ‘Hey, man why do you talk that way, I mean that is wrong. I don’t go for that so don’t talk that way around me. I just don’t believe that.’ That happened in millions of conversations and slowly the conversation was won.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/28/gore-global-w...


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DaveM wrote:

The former vice president recalled how society succeeded in marginalizing racists and said climate change skeptics must be defeated in the same manner.

I've got no problem with that. climate change deniers are selfish, morally retarded/ignorant people that should be marginalized. Just like the tobacco lobby.


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teslafan49 wrote:

Wow, here's a wild and crazy idea. Revoke NAFTA and GATT, impose import tariffs, that will make it unwise to continue to manufacture overseas. Oh, I know, the cost of living will soar. Yeah, but Americans will be employed, the tax base will grow, housing will recover, and in the end it will balance out. The Chinese and Indians have both said they have a market now that they don't need the U.S.'s business. So let's take it away, and rebuild our economy. Yes, I'm talking protectionism, so what? One other thing, let's make all the illegal immigrants legal, so they are paying members of society. There, that should piss off both sides. Okay, take your shots.

Revoke NAFTA? Ok....but first, over a billion dollars flows over the Canadian-US border, every day of the year. Also, as I am sure you are aware, many large American companies do business in Canada, and make a lot of profit here for their shareholders. Third, we are in the process of building an oil pipeline, from the Alberta Tarsands, to Texas, to provide you with millions of barrels of oil, to run your economy. You will get this oil without going to war, without having to invade our country, and with your large American companies making huge profits from the Tar Sands.

Bane NAFTA? Go ahead.

Shoot yourself in the foot, if you want.

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ron paul wrote:

Santorum thinks that wars are a good idea, if only to just stay busy and keep the fires of capitalism burning.

Ron Paul, you are our only hope. Just keep talking truth.

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teslafan49 wrote:

Wow, here's a wild and crazy idea. Revoke NAFTA and GATT, impose import tariffs, that will make it unwise to continue to manufacture overseas. Oh, I know, the cost of living will soar. Yeah, but Americans will be employed, the tax base will grow, housing will recover, and in the end it will balance out. The Chinese and Indians have both said they have a market now that they don't need the U.S.'s business. So let's take it away, and rebuild our economy. Yes, I'm talking protectionism, so what? One other thing, let's make all the illegal immigrants legal, so they are paying members of society. There, that should piss off both sides. Okay, take your shots.
You are kidding right? obama will attempt to do this so he can add 15 million voters to his tally while at the same time create a new liberal political power that will have nothing better to do than redistribute taxpayer money to all who don't earn it. I suspect that he will bypass congress somehow when he enacts amnesty. If you want to crush our country then this is the first place to start.


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Hmmmmmmmm I wonder how this happened?

President Obama’s uncle had Social Security ID

By Dave Wedge and Laurel J. Sweet
Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - Updated 8 minutes ago
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President Obama’s accused drunken-driving uncle — who was busted after a near collision with a Framingham cop — has had a valid Social Security number for at least 19 years, despite being an illegal immigrant ordered to be deported back to Kenya, the Herald has learned.

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The president’s 67-year-old uncle, Obama Onyango, has had a valid Massachusetts driver’s license and Social Security number since at least 1992, said Registry of Motor Vehicles spokesman Michael Verseckes.

Onyango, whose sister, Zeituni Onyango, made headlines when it was revealed she was an illegal immigrant living in public housing in South Boston, was wobbly legged, “slurring” and had “red and glassy eyes” when he was pulled over at 7 p.m. Wednesday on Waverly Street in Framingham.

A marked cruiser pulled him over just past the Chicken Bone saloon, about a mile from Onyango’s single-family home. Onyango, the half-brother of the president’s father identified in some press accounts as “Uncle Omar,” initially denied drinking but admitted having “two beers” after police said they smelled booze on his breath, according to a police report.

“It was clear that he was moderately unsteady on his feet,” Framingham Officer Val Krishtal wrote.

Onyango’s white Mitsubishi SUV was pulled over after the vehicle made a sudden right turn in front of a cruiser at a stop sign, causing Krishtal to slam on the brakes to avoid a collision. Onyango blew a .14 on the Breathalyzer and continually interrupted the officer, the report states.

“(Onyango) spoke English well, albeit with a moderate accent. I detected what I believed to be some slurring as he spoke,” Krishtal wrote.

Onyango was ordered held without bail on a federal immigration warrant after his arraignment Thursday in Framingham District Court. Court papers show he was the subject of a previous deportation order. He was being held in the Plymouth House of Correction last night.

Mike Rogers, a spokesman for Cleveland immigration attorney Margaret Wong, who is representing Onyango, said he “wouldn’t know how” Onyango obtained a Social Security number. Wong is the same lawyer who represented the president’s aunt, Zeituni Onyango, in her fight to win asylum last year. Reached at her apartment in a South Boston public housing complex yesterday, Zeituni Onyango said of her brother’s arrest: “Why don’t you go to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in Washington, D.C., and ask your president? Not me.” She then hung up on a reporter.

The bust came just days after another illegal immigrant was charged with running down and killing a 23-year-old man in Milford.

Asked about the issue yesterday, Gov. Deval Patrick said: “You know my stance: Illegal is illegal. We need comprehensive immigration reform.”

Howie Carr and Jessica Heslam contributed to the report.


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No, but he compares them with racists. He is taking a position on global warming and denigrating anyone who dares to disagree. If anyone is acting in the method of racists, it's Gore. Racism was based on a cruel attitude to other people, because of their color and genetics, he is doing the same, by his comments, but based on their disagreemnt wiith his viewpoint. Those who disagree with the global warming believers are basing it on the science of a different group of credentialled scientists. So to equate those who don't embrace his position with racists who were discriminating against other human beings, just shows the extent that Gore will go to, to inflame his followers. And by doing so he abases the Civil Rights movement and all those who suffered and died, due to racism. He is plain and simply a bombastic moron. And Fibb, once again, grow up, your rant above is equally moronic.

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Napolitano Says She's Deporting Enough Illegal Immigrants
By PAUL BEDARD
Posted: August 30, 2011
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Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano indicated today that the U.S. doesn't need to boost the annual number of illegal immigrant deportations, now 400,000 annually, because she's grabbing most of the criminals and sending them home.

"If we come to the point where we are unable to remove everybody we know has a threat to security or has a criminal record, violated criminal laws, or that we've caught right at the border, or is a fugitive, or has multiple reentries and we don't have the resources to remove those, then the Congress should look at the resources they give us," she told Washington Whispers during a roundtable interview sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor.

[Check out political cartoons about illegal immigration.]

Napolitano, who recently changed the priorities on who gets the boot, said that the focus will now be more on criminals. Currently, the annual 400,000 deportations are split evenly between those with criminal records and those with no record.

But she didn't downplay the threat illegal immigrants, estimated at 12 million, are to the nation.

"Let's not minimize. Almost half of the 400,000 people we deported last year had a criminal record of some sort. So that's a fairly robust [statistic]," she said. What's more, under the controversial new rules changes, she said that "the composition of who we deport is going to be changing and going in that direction over time. That's what it's designed to do, turning the ship" to kick out more criminals.

[Read about how President Obama can move forward on illegal immigration.]

The new rules were heralded by immigrant groups and Democrats who view them as more lenient to those here illegally. Essentially, it will mean that Homeland officials will perform a case-by-case reviews those slated for deportation, giving violent criminals and other high-priority cases a ticket home while likely closing the books on those not considered to be a threat.

Critics say it amounts to an open-door policy to the millions of illegal immigrants who don't have a record.

But Napolitano called the changes "common sense" solutions to the massive immigration problem. Noting that Congress only appropriates enough money to remove 400,000 a year, she said that "you can either just take kind of an anybody is anybody approach, or you can say, look let's focus on those who have an impact on public safety, who may have a connect with national security, who we catch right at the border, who are multiple reentrants so they are gaming the system like a revolving door or who are actual fugitives."

[Read about the obstacles Obama faces on immigration.]

Napolitano said that the numbers of deportations is "robust" and she added that the southwest border with Mexico has never been more secure.

She joked that "you get yanked from both sides" when it comes to immigration policy.

Her interview came right before she was to travel to Virginia and North Carolina to meet with homeowners and officials in need of federal relieve due to destruction from Hurricane Irene. For the trip, she wore a blue shirt emblazoned with the logo of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.


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TB649, I keep forgetting we are differnet counties, having grown up where I regularly went back and forth, and enjoyed a lot of time spent in Canada. We should create a U.S.-Canadian Trade agreement. Fair competition in trade is what I am supporting, and Canada is not a "slave" country.


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teslafan49 wrote:

No, but he compares them with racists. He is taking a position on global warming and denigrating anyone who dares to disagree. If anyone is acting in the method of racists, it's Gore. Racism was based on a cruel attitude to other people, because of their color and genetics, he is doing the same, by his comments, but based on their disagreemnt wiith his viewpoint. Those who disagree with the global warming believers are basing it on the science of a different group of credentialled scientists. So to equate those who don't embrace his position with racists who were discriminating against other human beings, just shows the extent that Gore will go to, to inflame his followers. And by doing so he abases the Civil Rights movement and all those who suffered and died, due to racism. He is plain and simply a bombastic moron. And Fibb, once again, grow up.
Liberals pull this crap all of the time by playing the race card. By doing this they undermine the severity of true racism which comes from a mans heart. Many of the eestor liberals are masters at this tactic and should be called on it whenever they do it.


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HEEman, so you are opposed to those that are here illegally paying their fair share? That doesn't make a lot of sense. So, tell me how the U.S. will find and deport 12 million people. Law enforcement is so overwhelmed already, that the task you propose is impossible. The only logical option is to offer expedited citizenship. Once those who are here for lawful reasons are citizen's it reduces the burden, so the concentration can be on the criminal element, of illegals, who are left. I, for one, totally support stopping the cruelty caused by the illegal immigration and the coyotes, which include employment slavery and sexual slavery. We have to focus the efforts on the scum.


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