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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 12:37pm #1
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In the light of lies published by Lensman, I think some clarification is needed.

I would like to make it clear that I have NO connection with the oil industry whatsoever. I have never worked for any of them, as a contractor or in any other capacity, and receive no pension or any other benefit from them. Lensman's claims are fiction.

Had I done so, I would have made it clear. It is not something anyone need be ashamed of, but I havent.

Moreover, I am NOT an advocate of continuing to extract and burn fossil fuels. I am all for investing heavily in alternative fuels, specifically forms of biodiesel in preference to their products. My reasons are that it seems a cleaner and more elgant approiach than batteries which remain beset by problems and show little indication of any significant improvement.

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 3:00pm #2
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Are you Willie Nelson?


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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 3:04pm #3
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Tec will prove to be correct about biodiesel.

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 3:11pm #4
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Tec wrote:

In the light of lies published by Lensman, I think some clarification is needed.

I would like to make it clear that I have NO connection with the oil industry whatsoever. I have never worked for any of them, as a contractor or in any other capacity, and receive no pension or any other benefit from them. Lensman's claims are fiction.

Had I done so, I would have made it clear. It is not something anyone need be ashamed of, but I havent.

Moreover, I am NOT an advocate of continuing to extract and burn fossil fuels. I am all for investing heavily in alternative fuels, specifically forms of biodiesel in preference to their products. My reasons are that it seems a cleaner and more elgant approiach than batteries which remain beset by problems and show little indication of any significant improvement.

Actually, this statement is unnecesary. Lensman claiming these things means we all know the reverse must be true.

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.


Assumptions: 1) E=1/2CV2

(Only dummies assume this)

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 4:31pm #5
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PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 4:34pm #6
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Are you Willie Nelson?

Who he?

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 5:09pm #7
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Tec wrote:

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?

I would not like to comment on your state of health...

No doubt those here who think I am in the pay of big oil believe I might influence it...


Assumptions: 1) E=1/2CV2

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 5:14pm #8
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My health so far is excellent, which is more than can be said for the EV revolution I believe.

Will we see the new wonder battery before the EVs death rattle do you think?

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 5:21pm #9
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Tec wrote:

My health so far is excellent, which is more than can be said for the EV revolution I believe.

Will we see the new wonder battery before the EVs death rattle do you think?

It has gotten where it is without it, so I think it won't matter as much as you may believe.

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 5:44pm #10
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It has gotten where it is without it, so I think it won't matter as much as you may believe.

I have an expert team of cryptographers and several gifted linguistics analysts working on this and will respond when they've cracked it.

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 6:36pm #11
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Tec wrote:

In the light of lies published by Lensman, I think some clarification is needed.

I would like to make it clear that I have NO connection with the oil industry whatsoever. I have never worked for any of them, as a contractor or in any other capacity, and receive no pension or any other benefit from them. Lensman's claims are fiction.

Had I done so, I would have made it clear. It is not something anyone need be ashamed of, but I havent.

Moreover, I am NOT an advocate of continuing to extract and burn fossil fuels. I am all for investing heavily in alternative fuels, specifically forms of biodiesel in preference to their products. My reasons are that it seems a cleaner and more elgant approiach than batteries which remain beset by problems and show little indication of any significant improvement.

Prove it.


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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 6:39pm #12
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Tec wrote:

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?
It looks like your life expectancy is a 83 or more, depending on your typical alcohol intake and whether there is any family history of heart problems. See Life Expectancy Calculator.

So we are talking about whether EV batteries will come good within the next 14 years. That seems a good bet to me, so I predict you will see widespread uptake of EV's based on batteries with suitable characteristics in your lifetime.

I have a £100 bet with my brother as to whether my niece (currently 15 but living in Washington) will learn to drive on an EV or an ICE car. It is surely purely a matter of paying her an appropriate bribe of around £50 which would make it worth her while to learn on an EV. Once she learns on an EV she will doubtless never want to drive a nasty smelly ICE car.

Regards,
Peter


Assumptions: 1) E=1/2CV2. (Only dummies assume this). (I am one of these dummies).

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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 6:44pm #13
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ee-tom wrote:

Tec wrote:

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?

I would not like to comment on your state of health...

No doubt those here who think I am in the pay of big oil believe I might influence it...

Who are you in the pay of? You haven't made your full disclosure.


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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 6:53pm #14
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Technopete wrote:

I have a £100 bet with my brother as to whether my niece (currently 15 but living in Washington) will learn to drive on an EV or an ICE car. It is surely purely a matter of paying her an appropriate bribe of around £50 which would make it worth her while to learn on an EV. Once she learns on an EV she will doubtless never want to drive a nasty smelly ICE car.

Sounds like your niece will become the beneficiary of a bidding war. If she's smart, when one of you gets close to $100, she will point out to the other that they'll actually lose less money if they pay her just a bit over $100, so the bidding war will continue...


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Sun, 08 Jan 2012, 10:33pm #15
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Tec wrote:

It has gotten where it is without it, so I think it won't matter as much as you may believe.

I have an expert team of cryptographers and several gifted linguistics analysts working on this and will respond when they've cracked it.

LOL

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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 1:45am #16
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Technopete wrote:

Tec wrote:

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?
It looks like your life expectancy is a 83 or more, depending on your typical alcohol intake and whether there is any family history of heart problems. See Life Expectancy Calculator.

So we are talking about whether EV batteries will come good within the next 14 years. That seems a good bet to me, so I predict you will see widespread uptake of EV's based on batteries with suitable characteristics in your lifetime.

I have a £100 bet with my brother as to whether my niece (currently 15 but living in Washington) will learn to drive on an EV or an ICE car. It is surely purely a matter of paying her an appropriate bribe of around £50 which would make it worth her while to learn on an EV. Once she learns on an EV she will doubtless never want to drive a nasty smelly ICE car.

Regards,
Peter

Wow! Tomorrow I will be 68. The life expectancy calculator says I should live to 96! That's great. Here are my relatives statistics.

Mother's father: 99
Mother's mother: 93
Father's father: 86
Father's mother: 83
Father: 69
Mother: 93

My mother's side of the family has the longevity with her sister living to 100 (almost made it to 101).


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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 4:50am #17
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DGDanforth wrote:

Technopete wrote:

Tec wrote:

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?
It looks like your life expectancy is a 83 or more, depending on your typical alcohol intake and whether there is any family history of heart problems. See Life Expectancy Calculator.

So we are talking about whether EV batteries will come good within the next 14 years. That seems a good bet to me, so I predict you will see widespread uptake of EV's based on batteries with suitable characteristics in your lifetime.

I have a £100 bet with my brother as to whether my niece (currently 15 but living in Washington) will learn to drive on an EV or an ICE car. It is surely purely a matter of paying her an appropriate bribe of around £50 which would make it worth her while to learn on an EV. Once she learns on an EV she will doubtless never want to drive a nasty smelly ICE car.

Regards,
Peter

Wow! Tomorrow I will be 68. The life expectancy calculator says I should live to 96! That's great. Here are my relatives statistics.

Mother's father: 99
Mother's mother: 93
Father's father: 86
Father's mother: 83
Father: 69
Mother: 93

My mother's side of the family has the longevity with her sister living to 100 (almost made it to 101).

Regrettably it is a life expectancy calculator with a .co.uk suffix in the URL. That means it is geared to people like Tec and I who live in the UK. Since there are significant variations in life expectancy between different nations then you should find one for the USA.

There does seem to be some good news for you. We are always being told that the current US generation is the first to have a lower life expectancy than its parents. Given your age of 68, presumably you are from the generation that has the peak life expectancy, but woe betide the youngsters.

In fact, within the USA there is a huge variation by state - 8 years between the best and the worst. Fortunately for you, Calfornia is one of the better ones.

Regards,
Peter

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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 4:54am #18
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eestorblog wrote:

ee-tom wrote:

Tec wrote:

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?

I would not like to comment on your state of health...

No doubt those here who think I am in the pay of big oil believe I might influence it...

Who are you in the pay of? You haven't made your full disclosure.

That is because I don't have a bag over my head.


Assumptions: 1) E=1/2CV2

(Only dummies assume this)

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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 7:02am #19
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ee-tom wrote:

eestorblog wrote:

ee-tom wrote:

Tec wrote:

PS - you are wrong about batteries and the tech is rapidly improving, with promise of very large improvements in the future.

Jolly good. I shall hold myself in readiness. As I am now 69, can I expect to meet these wonder batteries before my maker?

I would not like to comment on your state of health...

No doubt those here who think I am in the pay of big oil believe I might influence it...

Who are you in the pay of? You haven't made your full disclosure.

That is because I don't have a bag over my head.

Your fans are going to be disappointed when your conflicts of interest emerge. Better to clear the air .... Bag or not. Don't you think?


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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 3:00pm #20
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I don't think that internal combustion is more elegant than battery electric. Dirty and overly complicated. Today, bio-diesel proves more functional than battery electric, due solely to the limitations of batteries. ICE's are most certainly going to disappear from the face of the Earth someday. The only question worth disputing is which day will that be? I would hazard a guess to say that if Tec lives another 30 years he will see the dawn of that day.


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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 3:46pm #21
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TecsFanEE wrote:

Are you Willie Nelson?

You shouldn't use words like 'willie'. Eenigma will think it has sexual connotations. He thought 'twinkie' was lewd.


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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 9:19pm #22
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Oakthicket wrote:

TecsFanEE wrote:

Are you Willie Nelson?

You shouldn't use words like 'willie'. Eenigma will think it has sexual connotations. He thought 'twinkie' was lewd.

LMAO

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Mon, 09 Jan 2012, 9:20pm #23
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According to the life expectancy calculator, I have been dead for 5 years. What's up with that?

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Tue, 10 Jan 2012, 11:41pm #24
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I have a feeling Battery ED will triple within the next 5 years. at the same time Fast charge and Lifecycle will increase as well.

Biofuels are good however they are not the solution but only a bandaid like Hybrid cars.

one fight is the automakers themselves who are sandbagging because of the massive loss in revenues switching over to BEVs will cause. imagine all the revenue generated in the aftermarket parts industry. BEVs will not have this.

Tec, no one on here believes for a minute that you represent or work for any oil company. you are just asking the tough questions that should be asked. ask them over and over enough and answers may change as everyone has a different opinion. we are all just guessing.

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