TheEEStory.com

http://www.stardustexplorations.com/operations/...
From the website looks like they are talking about the EESU here unless there is another technology that will be dependent on barium? Seems so strange for this just to fall in our laps like this.

"Advancements in new technologies dependent on this mineral resource will provide the foundation for annual revenues in excess of $100 million within 36 months."

Looks like someone has acquired the mineral rights too.
"An agreement is in place to acquire a mineral resource property, entitled Snow White."

So well damn, I think that shows either EEstor is scam, or is telling the truth.

then they scammed, three division of LM, Mort Topfer, Ian Clifford, KPCB, Light EVS, SME of Zenn, SME of KPCB....

You want quotes? You hold them in such high esteem? Well here are some quotes for you!

Lockheed wrote:

"We cant guarantee this is going to work but we cant find any reason why it wont work"

Zenn SME wrote:

"EEstor will be the greatest capacitance company in existence"

Ian clifford wrote:

"EEStors been testing to millions of cycles in their early cell prototypes so we basically have an energy storage device that is a permanent energy source that is distinct from something that has to be replaced every number of years."

Richard Weir wrote:

"We've have made prototypes of this and those have....they were made with
technologies that we had at the time. And what I'm telling the people today is in
2007 we made a corporate decision to put in more advanced technologies which
we now and this data shows that we hit a home run on these technologies.
Prototypes have been built and prototypes have been tested."

Richard Weir wrote:

"I am already out there putting EESU together and its June, so I guess I'm a bit ahead of schedule"

Why did you take the links out to your proof that the EESU will never work??

and go back and listen again you are wrong

Having doubt?

WTF zawy.. why do you feel the need to quote weir wrong.
This is a much better quote not exact but not made up like yours..

"And the reason we coated the powders, to just back up a little bit, was aluminum oxide which is the highest resistivity material in the world, and the best sealant in the world, because when you add voltage to these materials you lose oxygen. If you coat the particle and it says so in our patent so this is all public information. You kill the loss of oxygen which totally shuts down the problem of putting voltage onto these products and losing permittivity {over time / aging}.

So, that was a big breakdown. And Carl and I used aluminum oxide before for... in secur? world for the same reason. So, we have a lot of experience in that."

zawy wrote:

Another example of incoherency at the exact moment you're looking for what theory they're basing everything on:

"And the reason we coated the powders ... with aluminum oxide ... [is] because when you add voltage to these uh to these uh materials you lose oxygen if you coat the particle as it states in our patent, so this is all public [domain?] information ... ah you kill th..the ox...the loss of oxygen which totally shuts down the problem of putting voltage onto these products and losing...um permittivity. So, that was a ... a big breakdown" - Richard Weir, June 2009

It's a 30 minute speech that is completely coherent and understandable, except for 30 seconds that covers the exact stuff we have been questioning.

I found this interesting looks like the increase permittivity is going to allow each line to make more EESU. Is Dick hinting at a significant increase in energy density, looks like it to me.

Dick Weir wrote:

with the increase permittivity now the amount of powder that goes in a product has been reduced
significantly so i can produce a lot more eesu per line but since its modular if something happens i don't shut down the whole factory down i go fix the line and put that back online

Last edited Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 3:19pm by Jay

Weir believes going from zero-voltage tested powders to EESU is a much smaller step than producing said zero-voltage tested powders.

Sorry EE-tom went through the tape several times and still didn't hear Weirs beliefs are you sure this isn't your own belief.

Added everything up using every ones input

1) They are using chemical processes to purify the powders
2) They need to use further steps to remove impurities added during the purification.
3) Eestor is very actively looking beyond the simple automotive sector, specifically at grid-levelling applications
4) All the research and development has been done
5) In June they were putting EESU together
6) UL certification started 3 years ago should be done by 2010
7) Weir was recruited by the CIA to build high frequency channels for satellites
8) LM is paying EEstor to complete darpa research contracts
9) EEstor is buying the rights to Barium mines
10) Due to the increase in permittivity each line will produce more EESU for considerably less energy
11) Looks like the EESU specs are going to increase significantly new permittivity value being withheld
12) all hell is going to break loose at EEstor, Zenn and theeestory.com when the final EESU is delivered
13) pick and place robot automation going in first quarter of next year
14) polarity is producing circuits to complete the EESU
15) KPCB owns 20 something % does not buy common stock and considers EEstor no longer a VC company
16) EEstor technology evaluated by 3 divisions of LM and a PHD scientist from Zenn
17) EEstor should be evaluated at being worth 500Mill
18) there is a darpa contract EEstor is involved with that could lead to a bigger contract
19) He said the they were 85% of the way complete on the production line, and that he would be finishing up fully automated pick and place assembly of components and components into EESus in Q1 2010.
20) He said "I I am already out there putting EESU together and its June, so I guess I'm a bit ahead of schedule".
21) He has identified suppliers of all the production line equipment. None of the equipment is in the $1 million plus category, most is $50-$75 thousand range. The equipment suppliers are able to supply the equipment for rapid growth of production line duplication.
22) When talking about UL family certification he mentions a large EESU like 12,000 to 15,000 kWh. Wow, that's a big EESU.
23) Purification and material processing is done in house, not supplied in ready form by a company like DuPont.
24) Contract pricing is in the $100-$150 range per kWh excluding cost of electronics.
25) IGBT's are the enabling technology that made the power electronics cost, size and performance effective.
26) LM has been around since 2002-2003... long before the Licensing agreement was announced.
27) EEStor has a patent pending which shorts out a failed component in about a millionth of a second, UL is very happy about that. If the EESU is crushed in an accident, nothing with happen, totally safe.
28) UL certification tests are to be presented and performed at EEStor premises, that process has been underway for 3 years and if all goes as planned they will have UL family certification in the next few months (starting in June 09 from the interview).
29) EEStor technology will allow for cell phones with 3-5 times the energy storage of current technology and will recharge in "seconds".
30) EESTor has two grid-leveling related patents pending.
31) EEStor is "in deep" with power tool manufacturers.
32) All the automated assembly line components/machinery are off the shelf and all the suppliers have been identified. None of the equiptment is prohibitively expensive. Lithium will just not be able to compete.
33) The tested permittivity is up to 22,500 OR GREATER. Dick Wier stated that he is not going to say how much greater it is (ie. I interpret that to mean that info is still in stealth and that he is hinting here at higher ED).
34) There are numerous chemical process patents pending that outline the unique purification and CMBT production process. They have invented these processes which do not appear in any textbook, they are new.
35) What keeps Dick Wier up at night right now? Work on the patents.

**edit added pgl list

Last edited Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 6:05pm by Jay

17) EEstor should be evaluated at being worth 500Mill
18) there is a darpa contract EEstor is involved with that could lead to a bigger contract

16) EEstor technology evaluated by 3 divisions of LM and a PHD scientist from Zenn

Lockheed wrote:

"We cant guarantee this is going to work but we cant find any reason why it wont work"

Zenn SME wrote:

"EEstor will be the greatest capacitance company in existence"

Albatross wrote:

Jay wrote:

4) All the research and development has been done
5) In June they were putting EESU together
6) UL certification started 3 years ago should be done by 2010

I think he said they were putting the production line together, not the product. IMHO this statement makes much more sense.

Dick Weir wrote:

-4:33 I am already out there putting EESU together and its June

7) Weir was recruited by the CIA to build high frequency channels for satellites
8) LM is paying EEstor to complete darpa research contracts
9) EEstor is buying the rights to Barium mines
10) Due to the increase in permittivity each line will produce more EESU for considerably less energy
11) Looks like the EESU specs are going to increase significantly new permittivity value being withheld
12) all hell is going to break loose at EEstor, Zenn and theeestory.com when the final EESU is delivered
13) pick and place robot automation going in first quarter of next year
14) polarity is producing circuits to complete the EESU
15) KPCB owns 20 something % does not buy common stock and considers EEstor no longer a VC company

Last edited Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 1:55pm by Jay

4) All the research and development has been done
5) In June they were putting EESU together
6) UL certification started 3 years ago should be done by 2010

Thanks for the warning.. this will come in handy for you

You know what they say fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....